Should 'New Moon' and 'SYTYCD' show up at the Oscar ceremony?

Today’s Hollywood Reporter features an interesting story by Gregg Kilday about how this year’s Oscar telecast coproducer Adam Shankman has been soliciting advice from his Twitter followers about who should appear on the show. “Curious: what and who do u wanna see on the oscars? What would make u watch?” he asked, prompting loads of responses suggesting cast members from New Moon, Glee, and High School Musical. Then, Shankman, who’s also a judge on So You Think You Can Dance, wrote: “would u watch the oscars with more excitement if I cast some sytycd dancers if there are musical #s, ” to which his followers exploded with excitement.

Clearly, Shankman is just having a little fun here, and certainly most of these ideas are unlikely at best. But it raises an interesting question: Should the Academy Awards, whose ratings have been slipping over the years, pander to younger fans by including tween stars and reality-show dancers even though they don’t truly belong at the telecast? (Let’s not forget that Robert Pattinson presented last year.) Or should the Academy be most concerned with upholding its integrity even if that means lower viewership? Will you only watch the Oscars if Vanessa Hudgens is there? Or is Gabby Sidibe enough to get you to tune in?


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  • Vanessa

    Kristen Stewart did not present last year. Only Robert Pattinson was there to introduce the “romance” montage.

    • Dave Karger

      Thanks for the good catch, Vanessa!

      • Vanessa

        No problem. I would think that New Moon would be included just because it was such a box office hit. Although – Kristen Stewart’s constant display of depression might cause me to not watch.

      • Celia

        Kristen Stewart and any of the twilight brood shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the Oscars.

    • TellyB

      I don’t see anything wrong with having elements from huge aspects of entertainment. Say, someone from New Moon presenting a makeup award, or someone from High School Musical presenting a Best Song or something.

      • Gazza

        actually, zac efron presented both best musical score and best song at the 2009 oscars with alicia keys… and did that “musical no.”(worst mashup EVER)

    • Ella

      NMoon should simply disappear. The movie was so ghastly the less said about it the better. Appearing at the Oscars would be serious overreaching.

      • Linda

        Get a grip – he’s asking what viewers would watch and anybody from New Moon would bring them to the TV in bucket loads!

  • graeme

    The ceremony last year was the best one in years. The structure, the charismatic/funny presenters, Hugh Jackman, the past winners honoring the nominees…it was all fantastic.

    • Reena

      I totally agree with you I liked how last year they brought out past winners in each category to introduce each nominee that year it gave it a wonderful new twist seeing past winners who most people forget. And I agree Hugh Jackman was one of the best hosts so far I dont know how I feel about this Martin/Baldwin idea but we will see what happens :-)

      • Ambient Lite

        Doesn’t it compromise “the integrity of the academy” to agree to so blatently plug a movie by having said movie’s stars as hosts?

    • kaloalo

      i agree – i loved hugh jackman cause he’s so talented

      and i actually found the section with high school musical starts to be the most painful to watch

    • Celia

      I agree. I loved the lighter format this year. Hugh made the show fun instead of stuffy and boring like it usually is. I really LOVED what Ellen Degeneres did with it the year she hosted. The Shadow Dancers were amazing.

    • Mac

      Yuck! Jackman was a lame host, although he did try. His musical numbers were boring, and that may have been the problem. Actually, his comic timing isn’t that great and he resorts to just smiling, much to his fan’s delight. I hope he never comes back and that the emcee(s) at least have SOME comic ability.

      • Ezri

        Actually, he is very, very funny. But he was obviously nervous and outside the awesome opening number didn´t have too good material to work with. Find “2004 tony awards” in youtube, where he danced with Sarah Jessica Parker as Peter Allen and then talk about comical timing ;-)

    • Ryan

      I couldn’t watch after the first opening number by Jackman. Way too much, no real humor, pandering to the lowest denominator.

    • Mark R

      I agree, last year’s show was unforgettable. I have been watching the AAs for about 15 years now, and I love it every single time regardless of format. I don’t think the Oscars are trying to play to a younger audience, this is a celebration in film, not a celebration in fans. Of course, we as fans play a huge role in a film’s success; but that does not mean that people like Robert Pattinson should present an award just because “we” like him.

  • Maserda

    I like the dancing idea, with the SYTYCD alums.

  • Andrea D

    This story from another site states that the most common answer to Shankman’s query is Adam Lambert. Why no mention here?

    • keith

      You have got to be kidding me. Seriously, stans, back off.

    • Maria

      Seriously? EW.com doesn’t mention Adam Lambert enough for you? You’ve got to be kidding me.

    • Michael

      Adam Lambert is irrelavant to the Oscars…unless his bad song from 2012 can get nominated. In other words, he’s irrelavant.

  • JP

    New Moon cast members as presenters wouldn’t be bad they had one of the biggest movies of the year.

  • Adam

    Please, please uphold the integrity. Dancers from SYTYCD would be fine in the musical numbers because some of those dancers are amazingly talented. But let’s keep everything Twilight related away from the Oscars. Not that I would mind seeing younger stars present awards. Normally I’d be fine with that. But the Twilight cast is so ridiculously overexposed. We don’t need to see any more of them.

    • Rocky

      Completely agree!

      • Jennifer

        Oh God Please, lets vote for integrity here…..please.

      • kaloalo

        i agree – please keep your integrity – it’s ok to have them present and introduce it and stuff

        next thing you know, new moon will be nominated for best picture and become like the mtv movie awards or something

        and honestly – why appeal to the tween audience if they could care less about the movies nominated for best picture? they’d probably cry foul for the fact that new moon isn’t nominated

        and please no more hsm people

    • AK

      I’m not a “Twilight” fan at all, but that’s a little bit of an overreaction. The Oscars is celebrating the year in movies. They should always honor the best, but if they want to acknowledge that the rest exists with the hope of boosting their numbers a little I don’t begrudge them. Now, if one of those “Twilight” movies ever got nominated for Best Picture, we’ve got an entirely different situation on our hands…

      • llevinso

        But that’s the thing, the Oscars are there to highlight the great movies of the year. Not the tweeny crap that is just above horrible (and I think I’m even being generous there). Twilight does not deserve to have anything to do with the Oscars. Ever.

        I completely agree with poster Adam.

      • Kelsey

        The Oscars should be celebrating a year in GOOD movies.
        I don’t think the Academy producers should start baiting the lowest common denominator just to boost ratings. If they really want to get viewers interested, they’d be better off broadening their horizons and looking at GOOD popular films (i.e. Star Trek, not Twilight).

      • Nick T

        If they want to honor good films that teens also enjoy, they can choose the kids of HP (I’m not trying to start anything).

      • amy

        @Kelsey – Great post, totally agree. The Oscar’s are supposed to celebrate great achievments in movies and acting, it should not be a popularity contest nor should they lower the standards to attract a larger audience. Movies like Twilight shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as Oscar!

      • KEVIN

        Why do people have to hate on Twilight sooooo much. It is now so tired to hate on it. I don’t watch/read Twilight but as a movie lover It makes me smile to see some friends/family/coworkers to get so excited about a movie. And it is a huge franchise, and the Oscars should acknowledge that.

      • Ambient Lite

        Kevin, I like you. I like you alot. Thanks for making sense.

      • crispy

        Whenever my family members get excited about Twilight, I punch them in the throat. My Mom is still not speaking to me.

      • Diana

        @Kevin

        You are a good, intelligent, and thoughtful person. I wish more people like you would comment.

      • Gazza

        I think one or two of the twilight cast presenting different awards is manageable… anything more would be a bit too much IMHO

      • Cherish

        The Oscars arent about franchise movies, they are about the best movies. Young people don’t watch it because the movies Oscar voters pick are always to mature for teens, so what is the point of pandering to an audience that doesn’t identify with the movies. Why must everything in our society be dumbed down for the masses. So what if young people don’t watch it, its the Oscars, there will always be someone that will watch them, everyone on this site to name a few. Can we keep a little integrity, sense of importance and grandeur. Please God don’t let them turn the Oscars into the VMAs. Tears of Horror.

      • mello mar

        I <3 crispy

    • Laura

      100% agree with Adam!

    • chris

      I agree with Adam. They should not pander to the fans of terribly-acted and terribly-produced films to bring in more viewers. This is how the show loses integrity. There are other popular films that may not be typical Oscar films but are still very well-made and feature great acting, unlike the Twilight films. These are the ones that I am fine with them acknowledging. Bring some of the stars from Harry Potter to the ceremony. Emma Watson has more talent, grace, and class than the three main stars from Twilight put together.

      • Hannah

        At least the Harry Potter films have actually been nominated for Oscars before, and probably will be again.

      • @Hannah

        True Dat.

      • dizzy

        I would love to see the HP kids there, especially Emma.

    • Celia

      I agree. I would change the channel immediately if they were on the show. I will watch as long as they nominate/represent good movies that deserve the acknowledgement.

    • mel k

      yes, yes, yes. I’m a twilight fan, but I never want to see it near the Oscars. That night is supposed to be about high quality cinema, not escapism movies. No Adam Lambert, no SYTYCD, that is all TV people. Maybe at the Globes, but not the Oscars

    • Dede

      You’re going to be stuck seeing one of them nominated. Anna Kendrick (who played Jessica Stanley in Twilight) is the early front-runner for the Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her role in Up In The Air.

      • dizzy

        Yeah, but Anna Kendrick isn’t overexposed and apparently she did a great job in “Up in the Air”.

  • Rahul

    The ceremony should only pander to those who like the nominated films. I doubt ‘New Moon’ or ‘High School Musical 3′ will score any nods. As far as ‘SYTYCD’ – that’s television; save that for the Emmy’s.

    • Randall Burns

      Yeah save it for the Emmies! If the Academy Awards were smart they would get Neil Patrick Harris to host. His hosting made the Emmy Awards Show one of the best televised awards shows ever. The Oscars has always been my favorite awards show but recently it seems the producers just take jabs in the dark and have no real plan as how to put on the show. Shankman has some entertaining ideas. He certainly made “Hairspray” enjoyable and his stint as “So You Think You Can Dance” judge has been entertaining. In putting on an awards show like the Oscars, it looks to me like you would indeed have to incorporate what’s popular and not so artful with what’s not so popular but artful. Film can only affect those who see it and there’s no limit to the impact of box office giants like “New Moon.” Of course it should be included at the Academy Awards as I believe all films that are elligible for consideration should. Why not try to appeal to as large an audience as possible? That way more people will hear about the more critically acclaimed movies as well.

  • Ambient Lite

    First, I completely resent the not-so-subtle implication that anyone associated with New Moon does not “deserve” to participate in the show. Eff you Dave Karger. What a ridiculous thing to say, that something as crappy as an awards show would have to stoop to new lows to allow such fluff in. It’s a huge phenomenon, and box office results alone support that it “belongs at the telecast” and should be represented.
    The series is just as popular with adult women as it is with the tween set.
    Whether you personally like it or not, there is a huge fanbase that would love to see their stars show up.
    The producers would be idiots not to capitalize on that.

    • Heather2

      I completely agree with everything that you just said.

    • BlackIrish4094

      Anyone associated with New Moon does not deserve to participate in the show. Now that’s a non-subtle implication. Those movies sucks who cares what the teenage girls (and truly weird “Twilight-moms”) think belong on the broadcast.

      • llevinso

        Here! Here!

      • Ambient Lite

        That’s ridiculous. New Moon was one of the highest grossing movies of the year.

      • amy

        Totally agree! And box office take in no way = quality. The Oscar’s are not there to showcase and recognize the most popular film, they are there to showcase and recognize the best films (which are often overlooked by the general public thanks to crap like Twilight)

      • Ambient Lite

        This isn’t about the quality of the film. This is about whether the stars should be featured as presenters in the telecast.

      • TellyB

        If we go by “anything associated with New Moon or Twilight should stay away from the Oscars”, then Anna Kendrick, who gives an amazing performance in Up In The Air, should be excluded.

    • crispy

      Oh, come on! You and I both know that Twilight is not an Oscar caliber film. One of my favorite movies of the year is Bruno, but I’m not holding my breath hoping he struts down the red carpet in yellow lederhosen.

      • Heather2

        Crispy,
        I agree with you that Twilight is far from Oscar worthy, it is not about that. It is about ratings. And what better way to increase viewership then to have Rob’s pretty face walking the red carpet. All the teeny boppers will be tuning in. That is what they care about.
        And the awards will go to the appropriate Oscar worthy people.

      • crispy

        On the red carpet… sure, why not. But I think what our esteemed columnist is saying is that they shouldn’t participate in the actual awards ceremony. Except as punchlines in the opening monologue. :)

      • llevinso

        Very true Crispy. And Heather2…not everyone thinks Rob is attractive. I actually think he’s hideous.

      • michelle

        Ditto that!

      • chris

        Robert Pattinson is not good-looking. I think he’s ugly. He can take his messy, greasy hair elsewhere.

      • kaloalo

        lol good point

      • Ambient Lite

        crispy, I am totally NOT expecting New Moon to take home awards – I’m saying for it not to be recognized in on of those montages of the year’s movies or to have the cast and crew kept from presenting awards – that’s completely outrageous.
        I WILL NOT stand by and have snarky haters treat New Moon like it’s the “Glitter” of 2009. It doesn’t deserve it. It was a decent flick.

      • Katie

        “I’m saying for it not to be recognized in on of those montages of the year’s movies or to have the cast and crew kept from presenting awards – that’s completely outrageous.”
        The Oscars are not just about the year’s movies. They are about the year’s BEST movies. I don’t understand what’s so difficult to understand about this. I don’t want Transformers to be in any montages, either.

      • Ambient Lite

        Katie, the producer of the Oscars asked via twitter, what would make people watch the telecast?
        The fact that conveyed his question via twitter means that he wants to know what younger people want, what would make them watch.
        I’ll tell you who they WON’T tune in for – Gabby Sidibe, Stanley Tucci, Morgan Freeman, Meryl Streep, Dame Judy Dench, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, and all of the other ‘good’, ‘serious’ actors. They’re boring. This is a show. They’re looking for ratings.

      • crispy

        Hah! I think you just identified the problem… people who use Twitter aren’t the brightest bulbs in the Christmas tree.

      • Ambient Lite

        Case in point, I DO NOT use Twitter (and never will). :)

      • Ambient Lite

        But my point is the same…they’re looking for ratings, they want to appeal to a younger audience.

      • meg

        ambient life-

        i would just like to point out that i am a female under the age of 18 and i would tune into a broadcast without rob pattinson and full of stanly tucci and gabby sidibe.

        franly, as much as i love adam shankman, i think he needs to stop worrying about ratings ratings ratings and focus on making a show full of talented individuals and films, and honoring them. I first started watching the oscars when i was ten, not because my favorite disney channel star was going to be on it but because i loved seeing all the great film celebrated for their fantastic work.

      • chris

        Oh Ambient Lite, you really are a gem. Yes, let’s leave out Gabby Sidibe from the Oscars. She only gave one of the best performances of the year. But who cares. Bring on Taylor Lautner’s abs! Maybe they can get his abs to replace Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin as host.
        And screw Meryl Streep. She may be our greatest living actress, but she’s so “boring.” Kristen Stewart’s emo pout face is much more appealing.

      • Maureen

        Seriously Chris. You are one of the few (sarcastic) voices of reason on this board!

    • Em

      I don’t even want to see Twilight kids on the carpet. The Oscars aren’t perfect, but they are supposed to be a celebration of good or important movies and actors whose skills deserve to be recognized. I’m with Crispy- New Moon and its actors (with the exception of Michael Sheen, who was definitely slumming it)should be used only as punchlines.

      • Jen

        Also, Anna Kendrick is in both New Moon and Up in the Air.

      • Kal

        Anna Kendrick, who plays a supporting role in New Moon is getting Oscar buzz for her performance in Up in the Air. Are you saying she should only be at the Oscars as a punch line?

      • Jen

        Ummm no? I was just pointing out that being in Twilight does not necessarily mean that’s all the actors are doing.

        No sarcasm at all, Up in the Air looks great.
        Plus, Anna Kendrick on Letterman last night and she seemed very charming.

    • chris

      Ambient Lite, I resent the not-so subtle “eff you” comment you directed at Mr. Karger. You have absolutely no class. The Twilight films DO NOT deserve to be represented at the Oscars. This is not the MTV Movie Awards or the Teen Choice Awards.

      • Ambient Lite

        I have @$$loads of class. heh
        Just because New Moon doesn’t appeal to you does NOT disqualify its place in blockbuster movie history. Millions of people love this movie and turned out to support it and it deserves recognition as such.
        I’m sure “Mr. Karger” sooo appreciates you coming to his rescue though.

      • llevinso

        And this isn’t the Blockbuster Entertainment Awards. It’s the Oscars. They are different. Just because it made tons of money does not make it a good movie. It was crap…based on a crap book…

      • Ambient Lite

        Your opinion, of course. Millions disagree.
        I probably don’t like some of the crap you like either.

      • strickens_girl

        Agreed, Chris. The Twihards can have the MTV movie awards and the People’s Choice and whatever else the tweens and the twi-moms can text their little hearts out for. Leave the Oscars to the adults.

      • Ambient Lite

        That’s like me saying that “Real Women Have Curves” should have only been recognized or mentioned at the Alma awards. It’s offensive and stupid.

    • Maria

      Since you clearly have a low opinion of awards shows in general, I’m a little confused as to why you’re so het up about people saying New Moon shouldn’t be featured on one. If you think awards shows are crappy, it seems to me you wouldn’t want New Moon, which you obviously think *isn’t* crappy, associated with it.

      • Ambient Lite

        Because I think it’s outrageous to suggest that New Moon would be excluded from mention considering its popularity and commercial success.

      • *facepalm*

        The Oscars ARE NOT ABOUT “popularity and commercial success.” The only places where that matters at all are the People’s Choice Awards, the MTV Movie Awards, etc. “Popularity and commercial success” does not inherently equal quality. It doesn’t. And the Oscars should be about quality.
        Seriously, what is so difficult to grasp about this? I’ll say it again. “Popularity and commercial success” does not mean that a film has any place at the Oscars. That’s not what the Oscars are for!

      • Ambient Lite

        Sigh. I’m so misunderstood. Geniuses often are.
        Lemme try to break this down for you in terms you can understand. This article is NOT about whether New Moon should be considered an Oscar contender. This is about the producer of the telecast deciding what entertainment filler to include in the show, who to have as award presenters, etc. That portion of the Academy Awards IS all about popularity, NOT critical acclaim. For instance, should the film’s stars be considered as presenters? Would that draw viewers? Yes and yes.

      • Adam

        Yes Ambient Lite, you truly have shown that you are a “genius.”

    • mimi2jko

      I totally agree! Why is Twilight Saga so dissed and Star Trek, Shrek, Edward Scissorhands thought to be so great????? and I am a Twilight MOM who happens to be a grandmother!!!! Slum Dog Millionaire won last year, did it not, and I have not heard anyone say they liked that movie!

      • Hannah

        I liked Slumdog Millionaire. There, now you’ve heard someone say it. :-)

      • Ambient Lite

        I liked it too. heh
        PS – Extra points for mimi2jko for being a grandmother who uses the term “dissed”.

  • crispy

    I’m sorry, but I can’t help chuckling at the irony of this statement appearing on Twilight Weekly: “Should the Academy be most concerned with upholding its integrity even if that means lower viewership?”

    • Fi

      Does the Academy really have that much integrity as it is?

      • Ambient Lite

        Exactly.
        “The Academy’s integrity” laf laf laf

      • llevinso

        So they should be trying to build their integrity back up. Not lower it even more by scrapping the bottom of the barrel with Twilight and HSM crap.

      • Katie

        Is allowing Twilight and SYTYCD going to do ANYTHING to build up their integrity? I don’t think so.

      • Ambient Lite

        If they cared about integrity, they’d hire a producer that doesn’t also work for a dance competition show.

  • Colin

    The Oscars should be about the integrity… it’s supposed to be the greatest award somebody in Hollywood can win. I thought they hit a home run last year having past winners in the acting categories present those awards, although I do wish they would still show a brief clip from their performance, as well.

  • Heather2

    Even though I would love to see Rob and Kristen at the Oscars, I don’t think that is the problem. How about nominating some movies that people actually watch and care about other than the ten percent that are bored to death with certain films. Gran Torino and The Dark Knight and WallE were major fails last year.

    • crispy

      Well, they are supposedly doing that this time… they upped the number of nominees for Best Pic from 5 to 10 to get more mainstream flicks.

    • Brad

      Because that’s what the People’s Choice Awards and the MTV Movie Awards are for. Let the Oscars be for movies of substance.

      • Ambient Lite

        “movies of substance”
        Pfft. Why don’t you go ahead and tell me why the hell I’m supposed to be content to LIMIT my viewing to whatever a very few holier-than-though snobs determine to be worthy of my attention?
        Should I only watch indie flicks, foreign films, and whatever Phillip Seymour Hoffman is grubbing up? Sorry, I need, deserve, and enjoy fluff. And so does everyone else – hence the box office numbers.
        Get over yourself and get you some Wayne’s World.

      • Jeez

        Calm down. No one is saying that you should only watch high-brow entertainment. They’re just saying that this is the OSCARS and it’s supposed to be focusing on QUALITY, not POPULARITY. Stop being so damned defensive.
        No one is forcing you to watch the Oscars. If you’re not into the films that are nominated, DON’T WATCH.

    • Ambient Lite

      Heather2, I agree – Wall-E WAS a major fail. I have no idea why the Twilight haters don’t take a breather and go after some of the animated garbage that the studios churn out. I guess cartoon characters magically confuse people into thinking they’re seeing something of substance.

      • Hannah

        I don’t think that’s what she was talking about. She said the Academy should nominate movies people had actually seen, and then mentioned The Dark Knight and Wall-E as “fails,” not because they weren’t good, but because they were popular films not nominated for next picture. If that’s not what Heather meant, she can clarify.
        But if you think Twilight is good but not Wall-E, that kind of tells me all I need to know.

      • Ambient Lite

        Hmm…yeah, Heather can clear that up. But yeah, you’re right, I thought Wall-E was overrated. Think of me what you will.

  • Mirillie

    I suppose integrity is great for the Oscars, but that being said, these other people have been in movies this year. Actors should get to go to the event even if they seem a little “fluffy”. The dancer part is a little over the top, but I haven’t watched the awards in a couple of years. It might get me watching again. That and a promise to end political statements by winners. Thank your mom and you publicist, but I don’t care about your political agenda.

    • Maria

      I couldn’t agree more. I usually change the channel after the winner is announced so I don’t hear the speach. There is almost always something political in them.

      • mlb

        That’s what I use my DVR for – I never watch an awards show live, that way I can FF thru all the boring speeches and performances I don’t care about.

  • M

    NO to reality ‘stars.’ Next thing we know, Jon and Kate will be there too. *shudders*

    • Leslie

      Totally agree. Plus I’m a bit confused on why they’d include TV “reality stars” on an awards ceremony that focuses almost exclusively (besides the made-for-tv movies) on films, not television? If you want fluff in there (for red carpet/presenting ONLY) to spark some viewership, fine, but can we at least keep it to movie fluff for the Oscars?

  • Danny

    Ugh, keep Twilight OUT. The Oscars’ ratings may be falling, but it’s not like they’re out of the top 10 of the weekly viewership, so who cares? Those of us that enjoy the Academy Awards for what they are (or should be)–a celebration of the year’s finest films–will watch anyway, and enjoy it. The fine actors, directors, writers, and everyone else responsible for creating a movie don’t care about the ratings, either. Let the teens pop in a Twilight DVD instead of watching the show, and let those who want to watch the show on its own merits enjoy it.

  • Wheaty

    I am a big fan of Twilight, but at the same time, let’s be real, this is the Academy Awards! I wouldn’t mind the cast presenting if they were given some funny materials though.

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