I’ll leave it to the box-office gods to decide if the slightly soft opening of James Cameron’s Avatar this past weekend was actually the result Read the full post.
Dec 21
2009
02:17 PM ET
'Avatar': Does its so-so story matter? It depends on your definition of matter
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I have to disagree with your comment about the so-so story line. To me it spoke about how we as American’s are many times going where ever we please and making many assumptions along the way(not caring or checking to see if we are actually right or wrong). Does anyone else see any similarities between the Earth forces going to take the minerals on Pandora and the US’ invovlement in the Middle East conflicts? Just because we are bigger and stronger does not make us right.
Thank you, Mr. Gleiberman, for putting not only Avatar in its place, but also those critics (once edgy but no longer) who’ve ‘learned to stop worrying and love the eye candy’. Politically, the film incensed me. Perhaps an audience which is not white or American will be quicker to sense this about Avatar. Once again we’re forced to witness an imperial spectacle of a young white American male (an ex-marine and fresh off a war) step in and save –not just another country or a new culture but a whole planet and a new race from extinction. Oh, and the Na’vis’, those natives, can’t thank him enough, their gratitude turns into worship when he comes riding Toruk, the untamable, the unconquerable. This is the part that especially angered me: surely Tsu Tey, the young leader, trained and wise in the ways of the Na’vi would have tamed this giant flying beast if he could by now, don’t you think? But no, this cowboy, a babe really in the ways of the Na’vi, finds a way to tame Toruk and become a god overnight. How humiliating is this? First he steals the most beautiful Na’vi woman from Tsu Tey, and then steps in as their savior as well? Unacceptable. It was all I could do from walking out of the film. If it does win the Oscar, then we’ll know it’s the consolation prize for America failing to set things right geo-politically elsewhere in the world, but nailing it at the Cineplex. And in 3D, too.
THIS MOVIE IS LIKE GOING TO RESTAURANTE WHERE U SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS SOO GOOD BUT ONCE U TASTED DOES NOT SATISFIED THE MOVIE IS GOOD TO LOOK AT BUT THE PLOT JAMES AS BETTER MOVIES THEN THIS ONE WHEN IS HE MAKING A GREAT MOVIE LIKE STEVEN S.
please something about twilight or new mon i’m really big fan
Im tired of fighting all the unimaginative, cynical, cold, ignorant losers that actually think Avatar is a crappy movie. Everyone i know that hated it was a simple-minded trashy and a closed minded a-hole. YES the story isnt very complex and unique, but it works perfectly for this movie. Whats important is the world of pandora and the message it brings. We unknowingly become Jake and learn to understand and judge the world and the Na’vi as respectable and important. We see through Jake that this new world is more than a treasure hunt. Treating the world equally to yourself and not abusing everything for your own gain is something that nobody can comprehend anymore. America and countries with similar luxuries never realize what has been done to nature in order for us to have the privilege of owning technology. We live so comfortably that we dont put up with the truth of what has been sacrificed for our convenience. For once I think about why nobody just removes the forests that surround by block in place of a lawn and a parking lot. I used to favor my xbox over a hike, if that makes more sense. If you can point out the story while watching avatar, then you should be able to figure out its humane message. I say we agree the story isnt outstanding and just move on to the deeper meaning of choice, understanding, justice, self-entitlement, greed, love, and life.
I admit that the plot was familiar, but Cameron’s direction was so masterful that it became irrelevant. I was completely immersed in the movie and it was by far my best theater experience in 2009. The story was entertaining yet touching, the cast was excellent all-around, the visuals were spectacular (of course) and even though the characters weren’t the most complex ever put on screen, the protagonists were likable and I found myself rooting for them the whole time.
I agree wholeheartedly. Sad that such a cutsy sci-fi version of Pochahontas is nominated for Best picture. Best fx or cinematography, maybe.
Sci-fi to sci-fi, in my opinion, District 9 wins hands down without the 3D gimmick which is all Avatar has to brag about.
Owen, I find this very offensive. Avatar is a so-so movie because it has a Native American ish theme, and, as you pointed out, there is only room for two Native American movies (Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas) in your mind. You say stuff like this, and then put Inglorious Basterds as your second best movie of the year, when there are about a million WWII movies out there. It’s really sad that the movie critics can’t handle more than one Native American movie in their brains.
I’m late to the party, I know, but I think it’s important to point out that this review and every single comment here amount to OPINION. Nothing more. I’ve only read about half of the comments, but I’d wager to say there’s nary a screenwriter in the bunch. Please understand: Dialogue does not equal a screenplay. Story and script are two different things.
I landed on this review because I’ve been trying to find someone who can give concrete examples of why the story is so boring, aside from the usual “it’s been done before” rant.
If the story and characters don’t resonate with you personally, that’s perfectly normal but it doesn’t mean that one person is Right and another is Wrong. Demanding that a film must fit certain criteria in order to be considered “good” is infantile. You only make yourself out to be that much more a yokel, a cretin, by hammering out your opinion as if it is infallible truth and castigating anyone whose opinion differs.
I say this: Make up a story for a feature film. Write a script. Learn what it really takes to create something so complex before you casually bash an artist’s work. Avatar is only Avatar. It’s not Bergman, Coppola, Rohmer, Abrams, Lucas or anything other than Cameron. You like great dialogue? Check out a Woody Allen flick. Want some amazing, deep characters? Check out Malle or Truffaut.
Avatar backlash is bollocks. NO story is ever completely original, although I can’t remember seeing another movie in which a soldier makes a remote neural connection with an alien body grown for that very purpose, then while in that body he learns how to make physical neural connections with animals to control them while riding them.
A story is about so much more than whether the dialogue crackles or the plot is similar to that of other films. I’m just tired of hearing people opine negatively about Avatar for the sake of seeming wise or cool or alternative or whatever brand of superior you think anyone else will buy from you. Think, really think, or at least try to, before vomiting maladroit garbage all over the Intarwebs. Try it, it could be rewarding!
I have to agree, effects are great but I go to see a new story told, not a re write on an old story. There is a disappointing lack of original thought anymore in Hollywood and the fact that people are OK with just being awed with visual effects shows how much we are lacking in using our brains as a whole.
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