Image Credit: Ed Wood: Everett Collection; Alice: DisneyBack in the mid-’90s, I was having a drink with a prominent filmmaker who had risen up in the indie movement, and we started to talk about Tim Burton, whose career at that point, with the recently released Mars Attacks! (a bomb — though seriously underrated in my book), was headed toward a tricky moment of truth. The filmmaker, who was dealing with a few struggles of his own, smiled and gave me a line about Burton that he’d obviously thought of, and used a number of times, in the past. He said: “What’s a director supposed to think when his best movie is his biggest failure and his worst movie is his biggest hit?”
That line was just glib enough to echo and resonate, even if it wasn’t entirely true. The two Burton films he was talking about were Ed Wood (1994), the great, one-of-a-kind biopic of the legendarily awful poverty-row movie director Edward D. Wood Jr. — a movie that I, too, consider to be the highlight of Burton’s career, though one whose reputation dramatically outstripped its popularity; and Batman (1989), the industry-shaking earthquake of a comic-book smash that was really the first, trend-setting example — before Steven Soderbergh, Sam Raimi, Christopher Nolan, etc. — of a director like Burton, all but defined by the flukiness of his personal vision, crossing the corporate channel to make a megabucks studio blockbuster.
Let me state right up front that I don’t agree with the aesthetically dismissive assessment of Batman. I think it’s a flawed but still marvelous movie — a very grand gem of gothic baroque kitsch, with a performance by Jack Nicholson that’s more than just one actor’s over-the-top, zany-hambone showcase. Even though he was officially playing the film’s villain, what Nicholson, as the Joker, expressed is a playfully demonic, bats-in-his-belfry joy that linked him, in spirit, to every great, bent Burton hero, from Pee-wee Herman to Beetlejuice to (one year later) Edward Scissorhands.
Nevertheless, I think that my director acquaintance was onto something. He was, in a way, almost anticipating the trouble that a filmmaker like Burton would have, in the new franchise-happy Hollywood, attemping to bring his vision to full, prankishly surreal flower in a mainstream context. It’s an issue raised by the very success of Burton’s 3-D Alice in Wonderland. This is the kind of smash hit that filmmakers dream of, but at what price? Is it an all-out Burton triumph? Or are audiences flocking to Alice in Wonderland because, apart from its obvious larger-than-life children’s-classic pedigree (and the promise of Johnny Depp cutting up), it fits into a genre of busy, babbly overly digitized postmodern ADD fantasies like the Pirates of the Caribbean films, Men in Black and its sequel, and, yes, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: movies that keep throwing things at you.
For Burton, the last 15 years have had a distinct sensation of artistic identity crisis. After the financial debacle of Mars Attacks! (1996), he spent a decade struggling, with an increasingly piecemeal sense of who he was as a filmmaker, to get his vision back on track. Sleepy Hollow (1999) was a hit, but to me it was depressing in the impersonality of its competence; it was like the work of a Burton imitator — a theme-park “dark” movie with showy McBurton touches and beheadings served up with such clockwork flair that after a while, I wanted to behead the projectionist. Then came the blockbuster hit that really was Burton’s worst film: Planet of the Apes (2001), a remake no one needed, and one so lackluster that it could have been churned out by almost any flunky-for-hire. That was followed by Big Fish (2003), which was Burton shifting gears to tell a sentimental “personal” tale of family bonds, yet with only a token feeling of obsession. It wasn’t terrible, yet I didn’t really buy it. In each of these cases, what struck me is that Burton wasn’t so much making the films he wanted to make as pretending to make the films he wanted to make.
And then…the comback. At least to me. I thought that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) had that vintage Burton zing — not just the trappings but the tasty addictive flavor of weirdness. Johnny Depp’s portrayal of Willy Wonka, with its Anna-Wintour-meets-Michael-Jackson aggressive flippancy, made for another of the director’s fascinatingly self-absorbed demon-freak misfits. Depp wasn’t just camping it up — there was an impish anti-social logic to the character. Yet five years later, it’s clear that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory genuinely divided viewers. Reading the comments on my Alice in Wonderland review, I was struck by how many Burton watchers have voiced the defining issue of his career in this way: He has to stop making adaptations. As a fan of both Charlie and (to a lesser degree) Sweeney Todd, I don’t necessarily agree, but I do know what they’re getting at. They’re saying: Tim Burton can’t really be his sublime self unless he’s utterly and totally himself.
That, of course, is the theme of Ed Wood, and why it’s Burton’s most personal work. The beauty of Ed Wood is that it recognizes, in every spooky and funny and delighted frame, what a fantastically inept, self-deluded disaster of a filmmaker Edward D. Wood Jr. actually was. Yet because he knew nothing about how to direct a movie in the real world, there was, in fact, nothing — no filter, no technology, no competence — to stand in between the movies that he imagined in his head, which were like a child’s fuzzy daydream scrawls, and his brave, foolish, and hilariously maladroit attempts to bring those scrawls to the screen. The grand joke of Ed Wood is that because Edward D. Wood Jr. was the worst filmmaker of all time, he was also one of the purest. It may be time for Tim Burton to remember that lesson and get back to his (bad) (pure) (inspired) self.
So what do you think of the place that Tim Burton’s career is at right now? Does he need to get back on track? And what’s your all-time favorite Burton film, and why?








I felt the style of Alice in Wonderland was right on the money for him. He just needs to find an original story to go with this style he does so good. I always felt that Tim would be the kind of director that wouldn’t make remake after remake, but at the time right now, he is. He needs to go back to his root and make an Edward Scissorhand movie again.
i disagree with owen’s assessment of alice. like owen, ed wood is by far burton’s best for me. and i also enjoyed mars attacks on a different level of on-purpose cheese. and i was almost dreading seeing alice. my wife and i have been burton fans for a while- since beetlejuice (and depp since ed scissorhands and gilbert grape)- and have appreciated the off-kilter sensibility that he brings to the screen. we loathe transformers (turned it off 10 minutes into the thing) and the like. alice is in no way similar. it was an original look at classic characters. i felt burton and depp gave one-note characters like the hatter a real depth. look, we don’t need heavy-handed character development to have a character resonate. we’re not the oscars. no, they brought a subtle depth hidden behind a mask of insanity. there was a meaning to the madness. it served as an escape. and other than the so-so 3D, what was there not to like visually? revolutionary? no. but maybe our expectations were too high. remember though, that much of the visuals are dictated by a fairly descriptive prose by lewis. i think another viewing is in order for owen. this time without pre-conceived notions brought upon by an awful ad campaign- that stupid warm pig belly line gets played SO much. ugh
Batman Returns – It’s such a highly stylized, baroque masterpiece. Burton managed to make his darkest movie, but at the same time, it is incredibly personal and introspective. Visually, it’s his best movie as well. Not to mention, he gets a phenomenal performance out of Michelle Pfeiffer.
Batman Returns’ story is even grittier than the first Burton Batman. The way the characters become their villains is just so awful and sinister. His best movies have really cruel elements to them, th way Vincent Price leaves Edward is cruel (unintentionally), Oswald Cobblepot’s parents throwing him away, that crazy gleam in Willy Wonka’s eyes when the kids get hurt. I think those are the moments in Burton’s movies that make you care, they make you think that there might not be a happy ending and that’s exciting in movies anymore.
Every time I watch Batman Returns, I notice something new.. there are so many layers and endless subtext in every scene and character. Nolan’s Batman movies take Batman characters and bring them into our world (a pretty dull-looking Chicago) where everything has a logical explanation; Burton, on the other hand, brings the audience into Gotham City, in full-blown set-bound German expressionism, and lets us wonder how it’s all possible.
Everything I ever learned about Tim Burton came from “Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure.” That movie offers the first insight into what Burton was all about. I still love the guy and enjoyed “Alice” but it would be great to see another movie out of him on the level of “Edward Scissorhands” again.
Agree, Lois. Edward Scissorhands is my favorite Tim Burton/Johnny Depp film. So poignant. I also loved the wacky Ed Wood and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but Scissorhands stands as my fave. It’s an original idea made with so much heart.
I can’t see Johnny depp in these weird costumey roles anymore.
I have been a huge Tim Burton fan for years, I go to his movies on midnight or the opening day no matter what. It saddens me that he hasn’t made a truly original movie since Edward Scissorhands. Literally, every work he’s done has been based on something else. Edward was the last movie that he made which was of his own invention, not just him adding Gothic flair and Johnny Depp with a fake accent. I think Depp is a fantastic actor who doesn’t need to make up crazy characters anymore, he can and should move beyond that, challenge the audience in new ways. As should Tim Burton. Either move on, or go back to his roots like K2 said.
I haven’t seen “Alice” yet, but I’ve felt that Burton has kind of restrained his weirdness on most of his more recent works, to their detriment. His films so frequently dazzle with visual wonder, yet when the credits roll, I find myself feeling a bit cold towards them, kind of saying to myself “that’s it?” about what I’d just seen. My favorite remains “Beetlejuice,” because everything about it is so joyfully perverse, and it remains true to that spirit, all the way to the end.
“Edward Scissorhands” is my favorite Tim Burton film. It is such a strikingly original idea, presented in such a memorable fashion, that it is almost impossible for me to dislike for any reason. There is a constant sense of dark, weird humor. Winona Ryder dancing in the “snow” created by the ice sculpture is one of the simplest, yet most memorable, moments of love in cinema. Even Anthony Michael Hall turned heads (for better or worse) with his “villanous” turn. A great film all around.
You couldn’t be more right, I agree, edward scissorhands was such a fascinating movie to me. The very unique balance of creepy, scary, beauty, clutsy, and innocence is just really mesmorizing
My favorite Tim Burton films are the stop-motion ones: “Nightmare Before Christmas” and “Corpse Bride”. I know he didn’t direct NBC but it was his imagination and I always associate that film with him and not its director (who did a fine job with ‘Coraline’).
To me, Sweeney Todd is his best movie. Followed by Ed Wood And Edward Scizzorhands in a tie for second. THAT was a great adaptation!
I forgot Beeteljuice!!! That is a close third.
ABSOLUTELY Sweeney Todd. I agree ‘Charlie’ was Burton’s best mash-up of his own taste and the commercial, but ‘Sweeney’ was- for my money -the most perfect mesh of director and material I’ve seen in a long time.
I totally agree with your assessment of Sweeney Todd.
Batman is my favorite Burton film. My problem with his stuff is that sometimes it’s more window-dressing than substances. I want a good story, an original Tim Burton film too.
Replace CHARLIE with SWEENEY TODD, and you have my exact sentiments in regards to Burton. I freaking loved SWEENEY TODD and I really did not like ALICE at all.
This was a fantastic article. And, I too, LOVED Sweeney Todd. So what if it was another adaptation? There is no other director that could have pulled it off like Burton. Unfortunately its becoming “trendy” to bash Burton and Depp. I thought Alice was okay, and I didn’t really care for Ed Wood, but I’ve never been a fan of camp and kitsch. That might be my problem.
Personal opinion coming… I HATED Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. I thought Willy Wonka & th Chocolate Factory was superior. I think his mini comeback was Big Fish. I love that movie so much. To see Owen write that “It wasn’t terrible, yet I didn’t really buy it,” befuddles me. Just my opinion, though.
Agreed. But I must add that I don’t think Wonka was well-portrayed in either of the movies. In both he comes across not only as arrogant but also as a self-pitying victim. That feeling of whiny resentment is NOT in any of Dahl’s writings. Also, I think Burton needs better costume, makeup and design people because his visual style has trended away from edgy and engaging and towards just plain throw-everything-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks tacky.
i’ve missed tim burton’s original flair, yes. this is why i’m looking forward to the new “frankenweenie” he is working on…but still, i have been enjoying his versions of some of my fav. stories.
I do wonder if it is more than an identity crisis as a director. If this extends more to a crisis of how to be a director NOW. The movies that he directed 20 years ago relied on characters and acting with the dream of the fantastic. Effects then were very different than effects are now. I wonder if Burton, much like Ed Wood, always envisioned a world where aliens could invade and having it be terrifying rather than campy. And now that we can see that world more clearly on screen than we ever could before, he doesn’t quite know how to integrate it into his movies without the movie suffering.
Lest we forget, also, that Burton’s own life was very different when he made Edward Scissorhands or even Ed Wood than it is now. Maybe all we are seeing now is divided attentions.
very interesting point.
i agree with you Owen on this article 99% and i am sure the “prominent filmaker” you were talking to was Kevin Smith. Tim Burton has been a cliche onto himself for years now. Every movie he makes (even sweeney todd), just seems tailor-made for him and thats the problem. he isnt original anymore. he hasnt been original for over a decade! i guess its ok, he’s making his money so i doubt he’ll complain. but he is hardly a director- just a stylist and this point…