It’s back to Middle Earth for Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and the boys from New Line. Read the full post.
Dec 19
2007
01:11 AM ET
'The Hobbit' is a go with Peter Jackson
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Possible Plot Point (continued):
Frodo Baggins is born.
Birth of Boromir son of Denethor II, steward of Gondor.
Aragorn enters Lorien and meets Arwen again. He gives her the ring of Barahir, and they promise to marry.
Gollum reaches the confines Mordor. He is tortured, interrogated, and eventually “escapes.” He then becomes acquainted with the great spider Shelob.
Theoden becomes King of Rohan.
Saruman risks using one of the seeing stones and is unknowingly enslaved to the will of Sauron.
Then comes Bilbo’s 111th birthday party.
I doubt the sequel would be “made up” by Peter and Fran. There is plenty of material to pull from in the trilogy and the appendices to fill in much of the time gap between “The Hobbit” and “Lord of the Rings.”
Alright, PJ! We’re definitely moving in the right direction! You are the only director that I would consider. Producer won’t have enough creative control on the films. Hopefully that decision will become more apparent as you get closer to filming. Tolkien loves you and so do I!
After being blugeoned for 9 hours of the last 3 films,I don’t really care.I have seen enough.
Everyone seems up in the air about the sequel to The Hobbit. Are Peter and Fran going to make it all up out of thin air? I think not. If Jackson and team move back in time, as did the Star Wars saga, they could easily find wonderful material in Quenta Silmarillion to span the history of this great controversy between the powers of light and the forces of darkness and bridge The Hobbit into the War of the Ring from both distant history and future unfolding. Not to worry. The sequel will be fabulous!
Well I for one think that The hobbit just HAS to be written by Jackson, Walsh, and Boyen. I just don’t think that anyone could really do it justice. I’m not totally sure it would be a requirement for Jackson to be the director. There are tons of great directors out there although Jackson would be the best overall choice. I am even willing to wait for years if needed to get this combination of minds together again on this film. I don’t mind the idea of a “new story” being created to tie the Hobbit to LOTR. I think most fans would accept it just fine as long as some details tie into information available in the books. Once again, the films are a different creation than the books and that needs to be understood by everyone. I think LOTR book fans understand this for the most part, and if they don’t then they won’t go see it… no big deal, there will still be tons of other fans!!!
Obviously, many people don’t know what a producer’s job is. It is not what you saw in Mal Brooks’ movie, a producer is kind of like the project manager of a film. So Peter Jackson producing and planning the production with any director will be fine. WETA will still do the FX, Peter and Fran will still write the script, etc. Don’t nay-say a production just because you’ve convinced yourself that ONLY so-and-so can do it, that’s ignorant. Raimi, Del Toro, and Cuaron, incidentally, are all MUCH better directors as a whole than Jackson. Jackson’s movies were all pretty much junk until LOTR, and frankly, since as well. King Kong was ok, he’s not become the Lucas or Spielberg everyone would like to make him out to be. I’m sure with New Line and MGM EXECUTIVE producing (as in, the guys with the checkbook) the Hobbit films will compliment the LOTR trilogy greatly.
OMG I cant wait for these movies to come out!! Peter Jackson is a great director and i think he will work his magic on these sequels as he did with the other LotR films. I’m absolutly ecstatic to be hearing about this! Peter is also going to be directing some other really good movies like the Lovely Bones (2008). What a drama story this all has been, the lawsuit and everything. I’m sure that PJ will make these films as much of a sucess as he did with The Two Towers and The Return of the King. Hopefully he keeps his plans and nothiong else pops up to stop him. I don;t know how he is going to pull of tow films though, I mean, i thought just the Hobbit would be good enough. I dont see how he could make a relation between the fellowship of the ring and the hobbit. I dont know about this tow film thing but hopfully he pulls it off and it becomes great also. maybe he needs to think more about the silmarrilion and some of the Unfinished tales but i guess we’ll see how this turns out 2 years->
Michael daw i like your points and suggestions
Nix, a sequel to The HObbit could TOTALLY work. It would have to be done right, but if so, HUGE! Think about it. There IS a lot between The Hobbit and LOTR that happens. And during The Hobbit. Council of the Wise. Sauron returning. Saruman officially going bad. AND finally a chance to see Tom B. Why not? No, it’s not text book, but if done right, could be good. The purists will freak. So what.
Michael Daw, good stuff!!
The most annoying thing is that Jackson is going to do TinTin, a comic strip from overseas using motion-capture craptology, instead of working on the Hobbit as director. I understand he is filming and must complete Lovely Bones, but TinTin can wait or can be handled ably by Spielberg.
If the fight hadn’t gotten so nasty back in ’06-’07, the commitment to TinTin never would have happenned and Jackson would be in-line to direct this movies.
Once again corporate America getting in the way of artistic expression. Hopefully Jackson can find a good director to replace him and stays involved (including adapting the book).
Alot of people are talking about the influence of Peter Jackson, while i’d prefer for him to direct himself, if there is a new director they need their own autonomy or what you’ll get is a fractured take on the hobbit and this bridge film. Peter jackson got so much freedom to make lotr and that’s why it was so good and the new director needs that too. What Peter can do as producer is make sure that the best props ect are provided for the new director, do alot of the behind the scenes stuff and making sure it’s up to quality and provide info on continuity. Honestly Jackson provides these thing just by being the producer because, without lifting a finger, he will provide the same team that made lotr and who bring such a high quality and dedication, especially for these films, to their work.
Additional Back Story items for The Hobbit Movie:
Smaug the Dragon descends on Erebor (the Lonely Mountain) and expels the dwarves. Thror escapes with Thrain II and Thorin II.
While traveling to Erebor, Thrain II (now Dwarf King) is captured and imprisoned by the “Necromancer” in Dol Guldur (fortress in Mirkwood); the last of the Seven Rings of Power belonging to the Dwarves is taken from him.
Gandalf enters Dol Guldur, and confirms his suspicion that the “Necromancer” is Sauron. He learns that Sauron is gathering the Rings and seeking the One Ring. Gandalf also finds Thrain and receives the key of Erebor from him. Thrain dies.
The White Council meets and Gandalf presses for an attack on Dol Guldur. Saruman overrules him and begins to discreetly search for the Ring near the Gladden Fields, where it was lost by Isildur, and later ‘found’ by Gollum.
The White Tree of Gondor dies and is left standing. No seedling can be found.
Additional Back Story items (continued):
Bilbo Baggins is born.
Aragorn II, descendant of Aranarth first Chieftain of the Dúnedains, is born. His mother calls him Estel (“hope”) and sends him to live with Elrond.
Thorin Oakenshield and Gandalf visit Bilbo in the Shire. Bilbo joins the Dwarves’ quest to retake the treasures of Erebor. Among his many adventures, Bilbo meets Gollum and finds the One Ring.
Bard of Esgaroth slays Smaug the dragon with the aid of Bilbo. The Battle of the Five Armies—Men, Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, and Eagles— is fought over Smaug’s treasure. Thorin Oakenshield dies in battle, and Dain of the Iron Hills becomes King under the mountain. .
The White Council meets again and Saruman, hoping to keep Sauron from finding the One Ring, agrees to attack Dol Guldur. Sauron abandons Dol Guldur.