Jul 15 2010 04:03 PM ET

'Avatar' special edition: I hate special editions. Director's cuts, too.

avatar-lang-samThis item has nothing to do with Mel Gibson. It has something to do with Avatar, but only tangentially, since I’ve had a confession to make ever since I read, a few days ago, that James Cameron and Fox are preparing a theatrical re-release of the Blue People Chronicles next month in a “special edition” that will contain eight minutes of extra footage. The philosophical observations that the original 162-minute version evidently felt a tad skimpy to Cameron have been duly appreciated.

Here’s what I want to declare: I hate special editions. Even when they’re good. I also hate extended editions, collector’s versions…whatever it is they call it when a movie that was once released as finished (and for which a movie-lover has paid good money to buy a ticket) is subsequently considered not-quite-as-finished as the new version now on $ale. I especially hate “director’s cuts,” with the implication that until their triumphant appearance, artistic liberty has been trampled upon by terrible forces of commerce. Never mind that this is often true; it’s still got the ring of pretension. I read a lot of books, and aside from Lady Chatterley’s Lover, I have rarely found one called the “author’s edition.” I go to the theater a lot, and I haven’t seen any production billed as the “playwright’s edition.”

Limited liability statement: The above opinion does not apply to the superiority of Apocalypse Now Redux; the 1998 re-release of Orson Welles’ Touch of Evil brilliantly edited by Walter Murch; the final, final, final, final cut of Blade Runner; and whatever you count as your favorite director’s cut.

Hey, what is your favorite director’s cut, and how is it different from what you saw the first time? Really? Alternatively, if you were allowed to add eight minutes to Avatar, where would you stick them? I think I’d like more scenes of Sigourney Weaver smoking, just to show, you know, how crummy Earth is compared with Pandora.

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  • Justin

    I love the Directors Cut of Aliens!

    • Brady

      I agree. The Abyss was another fantastic directors cut, so that’s two for two with James Cameron. There’s no reason to think that he won’t go three for three.

      • Danno

        This would actually make him 4 for 4. Let’s not forget the vastly superior directors cut of Terminator 2.

      • Wickeddoll

        The Abyss’ DC filled in a *lot* of holes, unlike most. Some of the scenes made no sense until I saw it.

      • dood

        The Abyss directors cut WAS better and worse at the same time. It was interesting and explained a lot. But it also became immediately outdated when the cold war ended almost directly after filming, and the dialogue is ridiculously cheesy.

        And Swartzenbaum are you on crack? You CAN’T make a bold statement that broadly states “I hate directors cuts” then say, oh except “Blade Runner” “Apacolypse Now” and “Touch of Evil”. Thats like me saying “Oh I hate all pancakes… except for Buttermilk. Oh and chocolate chip pancakes are good if you have syrup.”

        What you SHOULD be saying is that you dislike it when a studio releases something again that has just a little extra to entice the consumer. I personally dont mind it, its good economics. Avatar lost a bunch of money when it got yanked prematurely due to Alice in Wonderland. It only makes sense they want to remake that money.

        I personally wont be seeing it, I already saw it 3 times its original run. I dont need another 8 minutes of footage. Just the same I dont buy every DVD of everything. For instance, if there are no Special Features I dont buy it because I know they will release one with special features later. You have to think about where your moneys going and not criticize those who’ve chose to spend it a certain way.

        Lastly, you mentioned “Blade Runner”. That film is the REASON that directors cuts are neccesary at times. That beautiful movie was RAPED by executives into a commercialized, low impact snooze-fest. When people discovered the rough cut they found the true potential. And Scott finally was able to perfect his vision. And it is one of the few movies that despite its budgetary constraints at times, can be described as perfect.

      • Tic

        Blueberry pancakes are good, too.

    • elr

      I agree with Aliens and Terminator 2 director cuts, but where will he put these extra 8 minutes. And since it is a theatrical re-release I don’t think I will be paying the price of a ticket to try to find them in the movie.

      • L.T.

        What about TITANIC the EXTENDED DIRECTOR’s CUT with Commentary! That would kill wouldn’t it! PUHLEEZE! Enough hoo hah already the guy’s ego is the size of NAVII!

    • Alex

      Yeah, the best director’s cuts of all time…The Abyss, T2, Aliens…wait a second. Maybe this Cameron guy has something going in terms of his ability to make a superior director’s cut. There a lot of good director’s cuts, or extended editions. These aren’t to be confused with the “unrated” cuts of movies. There are many many extended cuts of movies that improve on the theatrical cut. To say you generally hate them all is close to ludicrous. You also have to remember that IMAX film projectors can only hold about 165 minutes of film, and IMAX 3D is the way Cameron said it should be seen.

      • Alex

        Donnie Darko: The Director’s Cut.

      • Lizzy

        I actually loved the directors cut of Daredevil; it completely changed the tone and plot line of the film and made it bearable.

    • Francisco

      Afreed Aliens and Terminator 2 were both superior in the final Director’s Cut form.

  • M Weyer

    I would also add to the list of actually good Director’s Cut the 2006 DVD of “Kingdom of Heaven.” The theatrical version was pretty poor but the cut places in nearly an hour of new footage that deepens the characters and the storyline brilliantly and ranks as one of Scott’s best movies. This version is well worth tracking down (especially with the multiple commentaries and the two discs of bonus features, a great movie all around.

    • joblo

      Absolutely! Fantastic example. The Kingdom of Heaven went from being a mediocre swords and sandals to an absolute masterpiece of an epic. It’s one of the best examples of how editing can truly change a film into an almost completely different story.

      • Naja haje

        Thank you, joblo & M Weyer. I shall look for it. I had looked forward to it, but found the theatrical version to be mediocre.

      • tkbryant

        I agree %100. It’s a completely different movie from the theatrical cut! One of my all time faves!

      • Andy

        Eh – No Kidding. Not to mention most reviews are spoiler-filled, so I have abandoned reading either of them for years now.

  • Mike

    The Almost Famous “Untitled” Cut is superior I think.

  • Kat

    This has nothing to do with artistry or quality and everything to do with fangirl geekdom, but I love love love all three of my LOTR extended editions. Anything to keep me in that world for just a little longer…

    • Chad

      I second that. The ‘making of’ docs and commentaries on those discs are amazing.

    • Bethie

      Yep, me too. I love my extended editions of the LoTR trilogy with all of those extra scenes and longer scenes. It’s a case of more of this is always better.

    • Jake

      The Two Towers is my personal favorite extended version when compared to the theatrical releases.

    • Gwen

      Totally agree!! With only one or two exceptions, I thought every “extended” scene not seen in the theaters added so much to the movies.

      • Andy

        I don’t even remember the theatrical versions anymore…I only saw them the one time each in the theater! Fingers crossed Peter Jackson picks up the directing reigns for “The Hobbit”!

      • Joel

        Yep, I agree. I’ve seen the Extended Cut of Return of the King so many times that now it’s what I think of when I think of RotK. Sometime in the last year or two I rewatched the theatrical edition and was expecting scenes to appear that didn’t! LotR is, without a doubt, the most successful extended/director’s/special edition of movies ever.

    • Rica

      I think it has everything to do with artistic quality. The originals seem really abridged now, I won’t watch anything but the extended versions. LOTR extended versions were some of the best purchases I ever made!

      • jodipo

        I agree with the LotR editions. They were worth the extra money and the only ones I watch. The other movie I refuse to watch in the original version is Legend. The directors cut is such a good movie!! Its so different mood wise from the theatrical version.

    • Michael

      LotR extended editions are the ONLY editions! They should have just been released that way in theatres to begin with. (I know, I know… time restraints), but that’s crap because pretty much everyone would love them more than the regular, theatrical releases, which now seem abridged, like Rica said.

    • Z. Abram Martin

      In a way the two sets of LotR films should be viewed very differently. The normal ones are for the public. They’re the real movies. The extended editions are for the fans (like myself) who wanted a little more. Both stand alone, and are equals in their own right.

  • AJ

    - Almost Famous Bootleg cut is in every way superior to the original version.
    - Requiem for a Dream’s added thirty seconds in its Director’s Cut really pack some “oomph” into that final cathartic collage of images.

  • Zebediah

    Let’s add to the list of “good” director’s cuts the extended versions of all three “Lord of the Rings” movies.

  • JIN

    Isn’t Avatar James Cameron’s director’s cut of Pocahontas?

    • Kim

      You think you’re so clever, don’t you? Well, you’re not.

      • Gwen

        I thought it was kinda funny, JIN!

      • JIN

        I know I am not. James Cameron is the genius here. Being able to repackage a very old story in blue paper and resell it for millions is quite smart. Me, I am just hoping to show that the Navi have no clothes.

      • Joel

        It was funny when the movie first came out. Now, it’s pretty much dead. Though I did like the spin of him calling it the director’s cut of Pocahontas.

    • jodipo

      I thought it was the directors cut of Ferngully…

      • Woot

        LITERALLY the same movie

  • JLC

    Couldn’t agree more. Unless you’ve got a Magnificent Ambersons situation (where the studio re-cut the film while the director was out of the country and then destroyed the extra footage), there’s no reason for a “director’s cut.” Put your best effort on the screen, or don’t make the movie.

    • Ryan

      That is not always possible. If the studio producing the film comes in and says “Hey, that R -rated movie you’re making? Yeah, we decided it needs to be PG-13 now.” The options are cut it and release the flick or lose your job and watch the movie get hacked to pieces anyway.

      Also in some cases when a movie is already very long, see LOTR trilogy and Watchmen, putting the extra footage in an extended edition is much easier to do.

  • Mothra

    I third that sentiment on LOTR… the scene before the gates of Mordor with that courtesy…thing, man, whatever… AWESOME! There was nothing about those movies that wasn’t improved by the extended scenes. Also really liked the d.c of Blade Runner.

  • Bad Cut

    Not sure what my favorite director’s cut is. But one of my least favorites is Army of Darkness. I much prefer the S-Mart ending.

    • Lisa Simpson

      Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

      • Bruce Campbell

        Groovy

    • Mo

      Hail to the king, baby…

  • SFNative

    The director’s cut to the Lord Of The Rings trilogy was absolutely awe-inspiring and magical.

    • Lisa Simpson

      Not if you barely made it through the movies the first time.

      • steph

        especially the last one with 35 endings. it just KEPT GOING.

  • Lance

    Aliens, all three LOTR movies

  • Carrie

    director’s cut of Dark City

    • Shannon S

      What was different? I only ever saw the Director’s Cut when I bought the Blu-Ray…so I have no idea what was left out.

      • t3hdow

        It left out the spoiler-rific intro from the theatrical cut, which revealed the final twist from nearly the beginning. It’s bad when fans instruct new viewers (of the original version) to mute the volume until you see the pocket watch.

  • Liz Lemon

    I always buy the special edition. No exceptions.
    Is a director’s cut and an extended edition the same thing??
    Anyways, my faves include:
    LOTR, King Arthur, and that’s about it.

  • Krycek

    The director’s cut of Zodiac is pretty awesome, along with Kingdom of Heaven and Dark City.

    • Miles

      I still wish I could see a David Fincher cut of Alien 3…

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